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17.01.2010 – CACIB NĂźrnberg – Germany
judge: Thomas BECHT (DE)
results by: Matthias Herter
BLACK MALES
Puppy class:
Vp.1 – ENZO-LORENZO v. Brennenden Berg (Latino Lorenco v. Cobra – Berta v. Brennenden Berg)
Junior class:
Vg.1 – ULYSSIS v. Assindia (Ramonburg’s Chinji – Osiree v. Assindia)
Vg.2 – FERENCIVO v.d. RosenhĂśhe (Latino Lorenco v. Cobra – Emely v.d. RosenhĂśhe)
Vg.3 – DRAKON DARK d’el Zorab (Bojan v. Havelland – Lady Lorena d’el Zorab)
Open class:
Exc.1, CAC, res.CACIB – JAGOR v. Nemesis (Fedor del Nasi – Atlanta v. Nemesis)
Vg.2 – CASSADO Nightwish Mystic (Rowan v.d. Erjolihof – Come As You Are Oxana)
Vg.3 – BLACK INFERNO (Come As You Are Godric – Pam v. Strengbach)
BROWN MALES
Puppy class:
Vp.1 – DRAGO v. Beuchower Hof (Heartbreaker v. Ferrenberg – Beauty v. Beuchower Hof)
Junior class:
Vg.1 – DELANO DARK d’El Zorab (Bojan v. Havelland – Lady Lorena d’el Zorab)
Intermediate class:
Exc.1, res.CAC – NORBERT v. Klingbach (Brando v. Wilden SĂźden – Hexe v. Klingbach)
Exc.2 – DIBRI DILAN v. Brunkenstein (F’Hiram-Abif Royal Bell – Poison Pearl de Gagnant)
Working class:
Exc.1, CAC, CACIB, BOB – Pride of Russia KASPIJ (Fedor del Nasi – Eurodinamika iz Zoosfery)
BLACK FEMALES
Junior class:
Vg.1 – KERRY SUE v. Tafelrunde (Chivago v. Wilden SĂźden – Escada v. Larimar)
Vg.2 – QUIDA v. Klingbach (Hilo v. Nemesis – Velly v. Klingbach)
Vg.3 – ROYAL IRONJA v. Trokadero (Pako Daker – Napanuna v. Trokadero)
Vg.4 – ARKA v. Frankonia (Falco v. Nemesis – Felice v.d. Fuggerstadt)
absent – FILIANA v. Safir (Latino Lorenco v. Cobra – Brina v. Safir)
Intermediate class:
Exc.1 – NIKE v. Hetzenberg (Russkaja Mechra Andor Absolut – Lucretia v. Hetzenberg)
Open class:
Exc.1, res.CAC – JACIRA v. Nemesis (Fedor del Nasi – Atlanta v. Nemesis)
Exc.2 – ANJULI v. Kunstadt (Ramonburg’s Chinji – Tahi-Reme Zoe)
Exc.3 – DARK VELVET Dobi Royal (Latino Lorenco v. Cobra – Esprit del Nasi)
Exc.4 – BAVARIA v. Bruggenern (Latino Lorenco v. Cobra – Estelle v. Erdburger Moor)
Champion class:
Exc.1, CAC, res.CACIB – HELENA v. Nemesis (F’Hiram-Abif Royal Bell – Castella v. Nemesis)
BROWN FEMALES
Puppy class:
Vp.1 – STELLA v. Klingbach (Hilo v. Nemesis – Ischta v. Klingbach)
Intermediate class:
Exc.1, CAC, CACIB – NAEMI v. Klingbach (Brando v. Wilden SĂźden – Hexe v. Klingbach)
Open class:
Exc.1, res.CAC – SUE v. Seckachtal (Ramonburg’s Chinji – Page v. Seckachtal)
absent – CIWI v. Safir (Rowan v.d. Erjolihof – Apanatschi v. Safir)
FURSTENFELD I FORE LL …. Dwie różne szkoły hodowli Dobermanna ?
Author: Massimo Santini "Diamante Nero" kennel, Italy (click here to view version of article in italian language)
Bez wątpienia tak…
Pan Herman Palmer właściciel hodowli v Furstenfeld i Pan Ernest Wilking, właściciel hodowli v Forell wprowadzili nowatorskie koncepcje dotyczące rasy Doberman, choć "genotypowo" rzecz biorąc, obie hodowle pochodziły z tej samej „puli genów".
Jeśli skoncentrujemy się na linii czarnego samca BDSg Alexa v. Kleinwaldheim (Ajax v Simbach x Carola v Sudharz) urodzonego w 1946 roku, możemy określić go jako "punkt wspólny" dla pozostałych psów. Stał się on źródłem przeróżnych analiz prowadzonych przez hodowców i miłośników rasy.

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Mr. Ernest Wilking |
Chciałbym również podkreślić pierwszorzędne znaczenie nie tylko zespołu genów tego psa, ale także zwrócić uwagę na szczególne cechy charakteru tego psa. Nie można zapomnieć, iż w latach 40 był jednym z pierwszych, który zdołał zdac ówczesne testy i konkursy. Pozwolę sobie ustalić i zweryfikować chronologicznie rozwój rasy.
W 1953 roku, w wyniku ścisłego pokrewieństwa z Alexem v. Kleinwaldheim rodzi się w hodowli v. Hagenstolz należącej do Pana Maurera czarny samiec WELTSg.SchH I Lump von Hagenstolz. Jego ojcem był Alf von Hagenfreund (Alex v. Kleinwaldheim x Amsel v Hagenstolz), a matką Dina von Klockenhof, która była także córką Alexa v. Kleinwaldheim i Addi v. Hagenstolz, a ta z kolei siostrą Amsel v. Enstol.


Jest oczywistym, iż podstawą “gwarancji genetycznej" Lumpa von Hagenstolz był wysoki wskaźnik pokrewieństwa (praktycznie rzecz biorąc krycie zachodziło pomiędzy siostrą i bratem). Przed tym jak poznamy najważniejszych potomków Lumpa von Hagenstolz pochodzących z hodowli pana Palmera, chciałbym dodać, iż wielokrotnie bywałem w domu właściciela i za każdym razem rozmawiając z nim osobiście opowiadał mi o niezwykłych cechach Lumpa, psa który już jako szczeniak uczęszczał na wystawy i z biegiem czasu stał się bardzo popularny. W roku 1956 doszło do krycia pomiędzy nim a czarną suczką Inka v.d. Nordburg (Nord Germania x Edda v.d. Nordburg ). Dzięki temu urodził się czarny samiec Bordo von Furstenfeld.
Wracając do chronologicznego układu wydarzeń, w 1958 pan Palmer pokrył czarną suczkę INT.CH.BDSgn.SchH I Carmen v. Felsingpass (Igon v. Naunhof x Hede v Felsingpass) z Lumpem von Hagenstolz. Owocem tego krycia były dwa bardzo znaczące (genetycznie) psy dla dalszego rozwoju hodowli. Mam tu na myśli czarnego samca BDSg.IDCSg. Citto von Furstenfeld i o czarną sukę INT.CH.BDSgn. Citta von Furstenfeld.
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Na temat Bordo von Furstenfeld pan Vogel potwierdził, że pies ten został obdarzony niezwykłym charakterem oraz wojowniczością przekraczającą średnią, tymi cechami obdarzył swoje potomstwo.
Jestem przekonany, że krycie Bordo von Furstenfeld x Citta von Furstenfeld, które Palmer powtórzył 5 razy (mioty K L M U V) można określić jako kluczowe w tamtych czasach dla rozwoju rasy Dobermann. Było to bardzo innowacyjne, ponieważ oba osobniki były bezpośrednio spokrewnione z Lumpem von Hagenstolz. Kilka szczeniaków z tego krycia zostało sprzedanych za granicę, tym sposobem zaginał o nich ślad, kilka nie zostało docenionych. W każdym razie odwołamy się do znaczących osobników pochodzących z wyżej wymienionych miotów, spośród których wspomniałbym o czarnym samcu urodzonym w 1962 SCH.I. Kandy von Furstenfeld, który to został powierzony panu Leo Schellmannowi, właścicielowi hodowli v. Frankenland.

Z miotu na literę M należy wymienić brązowego samca urodzonego w 1963 INT.CH.BDSg.SchH III Mecki von Furstenfeld, czarnego samca INT.CH. Miko von Furstenfeld i czarną sukę INT.CH.BDSgn.SchH III Mascha von Furstenfeld, która została powierzona Hansowi Wiblishauserowi, właścicielowi hodowli v. Bavaria i aktualnemu prezesowi Dobermann Verein i IDC.
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W ostatnim miocie na literę V z 1966 uważanym przeze mnie za bardzo ważny, pojawiła się czarna suczka BDSgn.SchH I Vijlia von Furstenfeld i samiec DV.CH. di lavoro, SchH III Verry von Furstenfeld, jednakże nie pozostawiają oni po sobie genetycznie rzecz biorąc ważnych śladów w rasie. Pisząc o ważnym potomstwie, mam na myśli czarnego samca SchH III Korung Vello von Furstenfeld powierzonego Ottmarowi Vogelowi, właścicielowi hodowli v Wilden Markgraf, który był także odpowiedzialny za szkolenie przez prawie 10 lat w Dobermana Verein.

Według mnie dzięki tak innowacyjnemu doborowi par hodowlanych i pomysłowości właściciela odnośnie modelu kryć Vello reprezentuje nowy typ współczesnych dobermanów. Tak jak już wcześniej wykazałem, niektóre krycia dotyczyły ścisłego pokrewieństwa dokładnie zaplanowanego przez Pana Palmera. Zgadzam się przy tym z Panem Voglem, który twierdził, że taki sposób selekcji, początkowo krytykowany, w konsekwencji stał się bardzo ważnym czynnikiem, który ostatecznie doprowadził w następnych latach linię v. Furstenfeld do stworzenia niezwykłej rasy. W procesie jej tworzenia zasadniczą rolę odegrała długotrwała selekcja oraz "dryf genetyczny". Dzięki temu narodziła się legenda „typu Furstenfeld”, który opierała się między innymi na następujących cechach morfologicznych: charakterystyczna głowa z bardzo ciemnymi oczami, podpalana kufa, unikalna szyja. Są to aspekty, które wyznaczają także różne interpretacje odnośnie hodowli pana Wilkinga i Palmera. Koncepcje tych dwóch hodowców wpłynęły bezpośrednio na innych.
Krycie Vello v Furstenfeld x Kira v. Romberg (Bingo v. Dornberg x Ilka v. Romberg ) z 1968, które zostało zaplanowane przez Pana Wilkinga, należy stwierdzić, iż w ten sposób stworzono najważniejszą linię genetyczną w ostatnim 30 – leciu. Maą±c na uwadzę czarnego samca INT.CH. Bryan von Forell, brązowego INT.CH.BDSg.DVSg. Bonni von Forell i po przeanalizowaniu ich rodowodów można powiedzieć, iż owe osobniki doprowadziły do swoistej ewolucji w rasie dobermann.

Bryan v. Forell

W tym miejscu chciałbym skupić się na Vello von Furstenfeld i tym samym zaakcentować pomysłowość Pana Wilkinga dotyczącą jego hodowli. Wykorzystał on w kryciu pokrewieństwo bazując na Aleksie v. Kleinwaldheim. Zdołał stworzyć osobniki, które były bardzo znaczące dla rozwoju rasy. W 1964 Pan Wilking kryje czarną suczkę Iris von Forell z czarnym samcem urodzonym w 1958 BDSg.SchH I Falko von Hagenstolz (Lump v Hagenstolz x Kitty v Hagenstolz). Z tego krycia rodzi się czarny samiec INT.CH.SchH II Odin von Forell, samiec mocnej budowy, o niezwykłej sylwetce – te walory możemy zdefiniować jako typowe dla Forella, należy przy tym dodać, że umacniały się one wraz z upływem czasu.

W 1968 także pan Wilking skonkretyzował swoją pracę i swoje poglądy dotyczące hodowli, kryjąc Odin von Forell z brązową suczkę BDSgn. Cita Germania (Casar v. Weideneck x Reni Germania). W wyniku tego kryciu narodził się czarny samiec INT.CH.BDSg.DVSg. Chico von Forell. Pan Vogel potwierdził, iż ów pies odziedziczył walory po ojcu – niezwykłą sylwetkę i mocny kościec. Pan Vogel osobiście zajmował się szkoleniem tego psa.

Odin v. Forell

Chico v. Forell
Podsumowując, myślę, iż Vello von Furstenfeld (1966) i Chico von Forell (1968), reprezentują krańcowy cel pracy wspomnianych dwóch hodowców…. Tym sposobem można rzec, że mamy do czynienia ze swoistym „wyrównaniem genetycznym", które wpłynęło znamiennie na rasę. W pewnym sensie jest to „ugoda genetyczna” dotycząca rozwoju rasy dobermann.

10.01.2010 – CACIB Paris – France
judge: Lynn GLASS (Scotland)
results by: Dorothee Leblond
BLACK MALES
Open class:
Exc.1, res.CAC – VILANDER of Devil Inside (Vilander Vaik v. Gebrannten Walde – Pourquoi Pas v. Jahrestal)
Working class:
Exc.1, CAC, res.CACIB – DRAGO v. Gebrannten Walde (F’Hiram-Abif Royal Bell – Bay Breeze v. Gebrannten Walde)
BROWN MALES
Youth class:
Exc.1 – EROS SOCRATE of Devil Inside (Mitto del Nasi – Trefa de Grande Vinko)
Vg.2 – EL DIABLO of Devil Inside (Prinz Paris v. Jahrestal – Pourquoi Pas v. JahrestaL0
Working class:
Exc.1, CAC, CACIB – MITTO del Nasi (Prinz Paris v. Jahrestal – Wallis Niki of Tanderberg)
BLACK FEMALES
Youth class:
Exc.1, Best Youth, BOB – DENDERAH V’UMMANAQ du Reflet des Songes (F’Hiram-Abif Royal Bell – V’Ummanaq du Reflet des Songes)
Exc.2 – DISKO V’UMMANAQ du Reflet des Songes (F’Hiram-Abif Royal Bell – V’Ummanaq du Reflet des Songes)
Exc.3 – ENDRIX LEGEND of Devil Inside (Prinz Paris v. Jahrestal – Pourquoi Pas v. Jahrestal)
Exc.4 – DOUCHKA du Chemin des Noues (Rensdorff Evsey – V’wallis L’ove du Chemin des Noues)
Intermediate class:
Exc.1, res.CAC – Irinland ZARINA-ZENA (Tamerlan iz Slavnoi Stai – Irinland Zena Zefyu)
Exc.2 – CHEYENNE du Val D’Hazan (Tulcky de la Vallee de Pissevin – Toscane)
Working class:
Exc.1, CAC, res.CACIB – Rossiiskiy Kolorit T’SARA BELLA (F’Hiram-Abif Royal Bell – Rossiiskiy Kolorit Karmela Cordelia)
Exc.2 – CALYSTA de Lacluse et Mijoux (F’Hiram-ABif Royal Bell – Swan D’Armanval)
BROWN FEMALES
Youth class:
Exc.1 – ENJOY YOUR LIFE of Devil Inside (Prinz Paris v. Jahrestal – Pourquoi Pas v. Jahrestal)
Exc.2 – E’FEDIA de Lacluse et Mijoux (Fedor del Nasi – Bella Virna del Palazzo di Shanta)
Exc.3 – ELITE des San Marin (Cisko Nitro of Devil Inside – Baika Megane des San Marin)
Vg.4 – EVER A JOKE of Devil Inside (Prinz Paris v. Jahrestal – Pourquoi Pas v. Jahrestal)
Working class:
Exc.1, CAC – D’ENFER of Devil Inside (Vulcain of Devil Inside – Pourquoi Pas v. Jahrestal)
Champion class:
Exc.1, CACIB – APPY BABY des Ceps Fleuris (Gizmo Betelges – Tabata des Ceps Fleuris)
Exc.2 – POURQUOI PAS v. Jahrestal (Fedor del Nasi – Wicki Betelges)
Monday, 30th of November
Male Gallery Littermates added – Hilo v. Nemesis
Puppies Photos added – Kleza’s
Dog-show New Show-results – CACIB Show in Amsterdam, Holland
Sunday, 29th of November
Dog-show New show results – Club Show "Stolica" in Moscow, Russia – added link to separated gallery
Saturday, 28th of November
Youth New female presentation – Xenia for Betelges del Nasi
Female Progeny page updated – Teraline Italy
Friday, 27th of November
Puppies Photos added – Tahi-Reme (Andres Crockett del Citone – Tahi-Reme Ginity)
Puppies Photos added – Akagera (Esprito Val di Taro – Diksi Glenaik)
Thursday, 26th of November
Male New male presentation – Kublaikhan v. Nemesis
Puppies Photos added – Dobergaarden Forever (Ale Alamos del Citone – Fortuna di Altobello)
Puppies Photos added – Alphapride (Fedor del Nasi – Barhat Bayadera v. Anberi)
Puppies Photos added – Bravo Dobermann (Imperator Iran di Altobello – Ottelia di Altobello)
Dog-show New show results – Club Show in Zagreb, Croatia
ZTP ZTP in Budapest – Gallery by Andrea Valki on Picassa Web
Gallery by Giota Gabriele Prosperi, un amico – un mito by Giota
Wednesday, 25th of November
Female New female presentation – For Me von Wolf Stamm
Puppie Available puppies in kennel – Perlanera (Zordan Zewi del Citone – Tahi-Reme Roxana)
Puppie Expected puppies in kennel – von Haus Sinnis (Czar Croesus de Grande Vinko – Una II Betelges)
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Zagreb, Croatia – 1st day
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Zagreb, Croatia – 2nd day
Thuesday, 24th of November
Male New male presentation – Hilo v. Nemesis
Puppies Photos added – Kleza’s (Icarus di Altobello – Katrina Daker)
Monday, 23rd of November
Happy Birthday ! Fedor del Nasi is today 7 years old ! Visit Fedor’s presentation
Male Progeny page updated – Pako Daker
Male Matings section added – Teraline Midgard
Puppies Available puppies in kennel – del Nasi (Sant Kreal Zeus – Pride of Russia Dasha)
Puppies Photos added – Betelges (Fedor del Nasi – Night Betelges)
Puppies Photos added – Tahi-Reme (Andres Crockett del Citone – Tahi-Reme Ginity)
Puppies Photos added – King of Darkness (Ron del Fiorsilva – Gem Givveeon Rocca)
Dog-show New show-results – CACIB Show in Sain Etienne, France
Sunday, 22nd of November
Puppies Photos added – Altobello (Maxim di Altobello – Malena di Altobello)
Female All galleries and results updated – Ciara Elite House
Saturday, 21st of November
Female New female presentation – Paloma del Nasi
Puppies Photos added – Come As You Are
Friday, 20th of November
Dog-show New show results – Club Show "Stolica" in Moscow, Russia – includes large number of photos
Dog-show Show results – CACIB Show in Vrtojba, Slovenia – 1st day, photo added
Thursday, 19th of November
Male New male presentation – Nemo di Prisconte
Male New male presentation – Connor del Bosco delle Piane
Female New male presentation – Sasha di Campovalano
Dog-show New show results – Special Dobermann Championships in Kiev, Ukraine
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Vrtojba, Slovenia – 2nd day, results incomplete
Wednesday, 18th of November
Male New male presentation – Usco v. Residenzschloss
Male Gallery Head updated and main photo changed – Questo Betelges
Tuesday, 17th of November
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – Elite House
Puppies Photos added – Kleza’s
For sale Gallery updated – Helena Perla Brzeszcz
Dog-show New show results – CAC Show in Friedrichschafen, Germany
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Friedrichshafen, Germany
ZTP New ZTP results – ZTP in Budapest, Hungary
ZTP New ZTP results – ZTP in Chiaravalle, Italy
Monday, 16th of November
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – von Nemesis
Male Gallery ZTP added – Kasanowa King Tromelin
Youth Gallery updated – Zora Betelges
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Kielce, Poland
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Voronezh, Russia
Sunday, 15th of October
For sale Female presentation – Helena Perla Brzeszcz
Saturday, 14th of October
Puppies Photos added – Daker
Friday, 13th of November
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Vrtojba, Slovenia
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Bleiswijk, Holland
Thursday, 12th of November
Dog-show Photos from Greek Sieger Show 2009 – Photos by Giota on The Dobermann Forum
Puppies Available puppies in kennel – Bravo Dobermann – Panama, South America (Imperator Iran di Altobello – Ottelia di Altobello)
Work-results Work Championships of Czech Republic – Work Championships in Velke Nemcice, Czech Republic
Wednesday, 11th of November
Puppies Photos added – Dobergaarden Forever (Ale Alamos del Citone – Fortuna di Altobello)
Puppies Photos added – di Perlanera (Tahi-Reme Xavier – Ines di Perlanera)
Tuesday, 10th of November
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Poznan, Poland – including many photos
For sale New male presentation – Newton Daker
Female Gallery IPO II added – Lola di Altobello
Male Gallery and results updated – Teraline Midgard
Advertisement Page is from now available also in italian language – Advertisement – italian version
Monday, 9th of November
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Prague, Czech Republic
For sale New male presentation – Ursus del Nasi
For sale New male for sale – Tom-Dober Iglo Junior
For sale Gallery updated – Power Playboy od Telepa
Male Progeny page added – Digger Steinhage-Grad
Puppies New photos added – Daker
Puppies New photos added – di Perlanera
Puppies New photos added – King of Darkness
Sunday, 8th of November
Male Movie from AIAD Show 2009 added – Nuno Narcos del Canale di Pirro
Update We have modernized Puppies table on our Front page. From now if you want to check parents of the litter you have just to keep the mouse button on the kennel-name and not to open each presentation.
We would like to thank those who paid our attention on it.
Saturday, 7th of November
Female New female presentation – Hazy Dream de Grande Vinko
Puppies New photos added – del Mediano
Work-show New work results – Campionato Sociale AIAD di Addestramento 2009
Friday, 6th of November
Puppies New photos added – Steinevans
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – Come As You Are
Thursday, 5th of November
Dog-show New show results – Insubria Winner – CACIB Show in Varese, Italy – photos added
ZTP New ZTP results – ZTP in Kaunitz, Germany – photos added
Wednesday, 4th of November
Male New male presentation – Tahi-Reme Zordon
Dog-show New show results – Insubria Winner – CACIB Show in Varese, Italy
Female Gallery by Anna added and results updated – Beauty
Tuesday, 3rd of November
Gallery Archival gallery – Gallery by Phisit Kiatpakdeekul
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Tyumen, Russia
Dog-show New show results – Special Dobermann Show in Tyumen, Russia
ZTP New ZTP results – ZTP in Kaunitz, Germany
ZTP New ZTP results – ZTP in Mondragone, Italy
Monday, 2nd of November
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Hannover, Germany
ZTP New ZTP results – ZTP in Schweinfurt, Germany – includes gallery
Female ZTP gallery added – Jacira v. Nemesis
Puppies New photos added – Betelges
Charity We put on charitable auction the movie (video) and catalogue from AIAD Show 2009.
The winner is Wanda Zielak, owner of well-known "z Padoku" kennel. Amount of 120,-PLN was transfered to Dobermann Rescue – "Hope for dobermann". Congratulations !
Sunday, 1st of November
Female New female presentation – Lola di Altobello
Dog-show New Show-results – Trofeo Vesuvio in Napoli, Italy – added some photos into Anna’s gallery
Dog-show Golden Dobermann Grandprix 2009 – Gallery by Clinics
Thursday, 31st of December
Female New female presentation – Paradiz Ronado Kassiopea
Columns Interview with Natalia Fokht, russian breeder and judge, owner of "Teraline" kennel.
We publish interview in italian language.
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Alicante, Spain
Wednesday, 30th of December
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – Friend of Mine (Hilo v. Nemesis – Highway to Hell Helloween)
Puppies Planned puppies in kennel – Dobergaarden Forever (Maxim di Altobello – Lola di Altobello)
Female New work gallery added – Lola di Altobello
Columns Interview with Natalia Fokht, russian breeder and judge, owner of "Teraline" kennel.
Interview in russian language is now available ! Tomorrow we will add edition in italian language.
Tuesday, 29th of December
Columns Interview with Natalia Fokht, russian breeder and judge, owner of "Teraline" kennel.
Today we publish interview in english language. In upcoming days we will publish editions in russian and italian languages.
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Vilnius, Lithuania – 1st day
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Vilnius, Lithuania – 2nd day
Show information – Grand Prix in Denmark on 26 of June 2010. One day before World Dog Show ! Take an advantage of it and make yourself weekend in Denmark being simultaneously at these 2 big events !
Monday, 28th of December
Female New female presentation – Juanita di Perlanera
For sale New male presentation – Damper Steinhage-Grad
Dog-show New show results – Triple CAC show in Moscow, Russia
Sunday, 27th of December
Youth New male presentation – Tira Vento Balantines
Youth New female presentation – Tira Vento Becherovka
Saturday, 26th of December
Puppies Photos added – Steinevans (Digger Steinhage-Grad – Zeo Steinhage-Grad)
Friday, 25th of December
Female New female presentation – Sergius-Aleksandria Magia Manon
Female New female presentation – Pride of Russia Ferrara
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – Pride of Russia (Teraline Midgard – Sergius-Aleksandria Magia Manon)
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – Pride of Russia (Pimms Number One iz Doma Domeni – Pride of Russia Ferrara)
Puppies Available puppies in kennel – vom Turmhaus (Irinland Edmon Emperor – Emmy Emilly v. Turmhaus)
Puppies Photos added – Dobergaarden Forever (Ale Alamos del Citone – Fortuna di Altobello)
Info World-famous kennel from Hungary has new website – Tahi-Reme
Gallery We got a large number of Christmas Cards and decided to present some of them in separated a gallery – Christmas Cards Gallery (accidental order)
We would like to wish Merry Christmas to all dobermann lovers !
Thursday, 24th of December
Puppies Photos added – Tom-Dober (Fedor del Nasi – Graphic Line Atlanta Alice)
Puppies Contact data updated – Smart Wood Hills (Yacheero’s Pando Pandero – Smart Wood Hills Prada)
Wednesday, 23rd of December
Puppies – Planned litter in kennel – Steinhage-Grad (Pathos delle Querce Nere – Dama Steinhage-Grad)
Dog-show New show results – CACIB show in Wijchen, Netherlands
Tuesday, 22nd of December
Dog-show New show results – CACIB show in Helsinki "Finnish Winner 2009", Finland
Dog-show New show results – CACIB show in Helsinki, "Nordic Winner 2009", Finland
Monday, 21st of December
Female New female presentation – Smart Wood Hills Prada
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – Smart Wood Hills (Yacheero’s Pando Pandero – Smart Wood Hills Prada)
Sunday, 20th of December
For sale Added "Gallery by Giota" – Quinto di Altobello
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – El Greco Nero (Maxim di Altobello – Sasha di Campovalano)
Saturday, 19th of December
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Rouen, France
Friday, 18th of December
Puppies Available puppies in kennel – Rellaps (Pimms Number One iz Doma Domeni – Rellaps Belladonna)
Youth Gallery updated – O’Finity King of Darkness
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Novosibirsk, Russia
Thursday, 17th of December
Female New female presentation – Anubis
Puppies Available puppies in kennel – Piligrimas (S’Lichobor Ermak – Livonijas Baronessa Kaelyn Kell)
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Kiev, Ukraine – 2nd day
For sale Movie added – Ursus del Nasi
Wednesday, 16th of December
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – Ca’Stellamaris (Nibbio del Diamante Nero – Ca’Stellamaris Danila)
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – von der Rosenhohe (Capone Elite House – Isis von Mahuba)
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Belgrade, Serbia
Tuesday, 15th of December
Males New male presentation – Varenne di Casa Giardino
Males Gallery updated – Zedor del Nasi
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Brussel, Belgium
Puppies Photos added – Tahi-Reme (Andres Crockett del Citone – Tahi-Reme Ginity)
Puppies Photos added – Kleza’s (Icarus di Altobello – Katrina Daker)
Monday, 14th of December
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – v.d Rosenhohe (Prinz Paris v. Jahrestal – Emily v.d Rosenhohe)
Puppies Photos added – Dobergaarden Forever (Ale Alamos del Citone – Fortuna di Altobello)
For sale New female presentation – Daphne Betelges
For sale Photos added – Helena Perla Brzeszcz
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Kiev, Ukraine
Trofeo Piero Caliandro We invite to take part in great event which is opening upcoming 2010 Year !
Information (italian) Information (english) Entry form
Sunday, 13th of December
Youth New female presentation – O’Finity from King of Darkness
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Wels, Austria – 1st day
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Kassel, Germany
Saturday, 12th of December
Female Gallery and results updated – Teraline Montera
Male Matings page updated – Teraline Midgard
Friday, 11th of December
Puppies Photos added – Come As You Are (Pako Daker – CAYA Jola)
Puppies Available puppies in kennel – Rossiiskiy Kolorit (Italo dei Due Intenti – Rossiiskiy Kolorit Elga Alberta Elada)
Puppies Available puppies in kennel – del Bosco delle Piane (Andres Crockett del Citone – Utra Arley del Bosco delle Piane)
Unusual birth in kennel del Bosco del Piane !
Thursday, 10th of December
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – Muralba (Nibbio del Diamante Nero – Rosa del Diamante Nero)
Puppies Photos added – Dobergaarden (Ale Alamos del Citone – Fortuna di Altobello)
Puppies Photos added – Kleza’s (Icarus di Altobello – Katrina Daker)
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Sankt Petersburg, Russia – 2nd day
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Wels, Austria
Dog-show New Show-results – Speciality Dobermann Show in Sankt Petersburg, Russia
Columns v. Norden Stamm – Farewell to a Champion: Kalina v. Norden Stamm by Jens Kollenberg
Wednesday, 9th of December
Female New female presentation – Vaydee Joie de Vivre
For sale New male presentation – Quinto di Altobello
Male Gallery and Matings page updated – Teraline Midgard
Puppies Born puppies in kennel – del Fiorsilva (Ale Alamos del Citone – Silvana Sabrina del Fiorsilva)
Puppies Born puppies in kennel – Destiny’s Phoenix (Mitto del Nasi – Hazy Dream de Grande Vinko)
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Verona, Italy
ZTP ZTP in Gioia del Colle – photos added
Columns v. Norden Stamm kennel – Photogallery of "v. Norden Stamm"
Tuesday, 8th of December
Puppies Born puppies in kennel – del Fiorsilva (Italo dei Due Intenti – Raissa Rivien del Fiorsilva)
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Riga, Latvia
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Sankt Petersburg, Russia
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Nitra, Czech Republic – 1st day
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Nitra, Czech Republic – 2nd day
ZTP New ZTP results – ZTP in Berlin
Monday, 7th of December
Female New female presentation – Ella Steinhage-Grad
For sale New male presentation – Omar Daker
Dog-show New show results – CAC Show in Nowa Ruda, Poland
ZTP New ZTP results – ZTP in Gioa del Colle, Italy
Columns New article – History of kennel v. Norden Stamm
Sunday, 6th of December
Male Progeny page added – Hilo v. Nemesis
Puppies Photos added – Tahi-Reme (Andres Crockett del Citone – Tahi-Reme Giniti)
Saturday, 5th of December
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – de Mediterranean (Pride of Russia Kaspij – Teraline Impreza)
Female New female presentation – Teraline Impreza
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Budapest, Hungary – 1st day, photos added
Friday, 4th of December
For sale New male presentation – Rado del Mediano
Female New female presentation – Fara vom Larimar
Thusrsday, 3rd of December
Male New male presentation – Zedor del Nasi "History likes to repeat…"
Female New female presentation – Alida Cherry’s Wild
Female New female presentation – Z’Elena del Nasi
Dog-show Show results – CACIB Show in Budapest, Hungary – 2nd day, photo added
Columns Interview with Anna Tits – Version in italian language is now available
Wednesday, 2nd of December
Puppies Expected puppies in kennel – Daker (Maxim di Altobello – Peri Daker)
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Riga, Latvia
Dog-show New show results – CAC Show in Atarfe, Spain
Tuesday, 1st of December
Colums Interview with Anna Tits, judge and breeder of "iz Doma Domeni" kennel
Interview is available in english and german language, right now is being translated into italian.
We plan to publish italian version tomorrow.
Shows Calendar of FCI International Shows in 2010 (not only in Europe) – Calendar in *pdf format
ZTP New ZTP results – ZTP in Oviglio, Italy
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Budapest, Hungary – 1st day
Dog-show New show results – CACIB Show in Budapest, Hungary – 2nd day
Dog-show Show results – CACIB Show in Amsterdam, Holland – photos added
Dog-show Show results – Club Show in Zagreb, Croatia – photo added
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FURSTENFELD E FORELL… DUE CORRENTI DI PENSIERO… NELLA RAZZA DOBERMANN ?
Author: Massimo Santini "Diamante Nero" kennel, Italy (visualizzare l’articolo in lingua inglese)
Certamente si…..
il sig. Herman Palmer titolare dell’Allevamento v Furstenfeld e il sig.Ernest Wilking titolare dell’Allevamento v Forell, avevano e tracciarono idee diverse nella razza Dobermann, anche se geneticamente parlando, nascono da uno stesso “ceppo genetico,” facendo riferimento alla linea di sangue del maschio nero BDSg. Alex v. Kleinwaldheim ( Ajax v Simbach x Carola v
Sudharz ) nato nel 1946 e che possiamo configurare come un comune punto di partenza genetica, della loro più importante ricerca cinofila.

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Mr. Ernest Wilking |
Vorrei anche rimarcare l’importanza primaria, che in questo contesto assume oltre che l’indubbio spessore genotipico di questo soggetto, anche e soprattutto
riguardo alla sua ottima attitudine , ricordandoci infatti di essere stato negli anni 40, uno dei primi soggetti a superare la Selezione di quel tempo.
Andiamo ora a constatare e verificare cronologicamente ..il perchĂŠ di queste mie affermazioni.
Nel 1953, da una strettissima consanguinetà su Alex v. Kleinwaldheim nasceva presso l’allevamento v Hagenstolz del sig Maurer il maschio nero WELTSg.SchH I Lump von Hagenstolz, dettagliatamente, in linea paterna da Alf von Hagenfreund (Alex v. Kleinwaldheim x Amsel v Hagenstolz) e in linea materna da Dina von Klockenhof anch’essa figlia di Alex v. Kleinwaldheim x Addi v. Hagenstolz, che era sorella di Amsel v Hagenstolz.


E’ evidente come risalti da questo accoppiamento, l’alto tasso di consanguinetà…. praticamente un fratello- sorella….consanguinetà sulla quale è stato concepito, Lump von Hagenstolz, che possiamo a ragione ritenere essere stata….una base di “solida garanzia genetica”. Prima di conoscere la più importante progenia fatta da. Lump von Hagenstolz, nell’Allevamento di Palmer, vorrei premettere che parlando personalmente con lui di questo cane…diverse sono state le occasioni nelle quali ho potuto frequentare la sua casa…mi ha sempre confermato le grandi qualità di Lump, soggetto che seguiva fin dalle prime sue apparizioni giovanili nell’esposizioni dell’epoca, e che lo colpirono, in modo direi assoluto tanto da indurlo nel 1956, ad accoppiarci la femmina nera Inka v.d. Nordburg (Nord Germania x Edda v.d. Nordburg ) accoppiamento che darà vita al maschio nero Bordo von Furstenfeld..
Tornando subito al cronologico, nel 1958, il sig. Palmer accoppierà la femmina nera INT.CH.BDSgn.SchH I Carmen v. Felsingpass (Igon v. Naunhof x Hede v Felsingpass) con Lump von Hagenstolz, accoppiamento che darà vita a due soggetti molto importanti geneticamente parlando per l’evoluzione di quest’Allevamento e della razza, facendo riferimento al maschio nero BDSg.IDCSg. Citto von Furstenfeld, e alla femmina nera INT.CH.BDSgn. Citta von Furstenfeld.
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Parlando di Bordo von Furstenfeld, il sig Vogel affermava,che questo soggetto era dotato di ottimo carattere,con combattività superiore alla media che ritrasmetteva nei suoi figli.
Sono convinto che l’accoppiata Bordo von Furstenfeld x Citta von Furstenfeld, che Palmer ripeterà per ben cinque volte ( lettere K L M U V) sia da considerarsi fra le più importanti di quel periodo, per l’evoluzione della razza Dobermann, accoppiamento basato sul richiamo in linea paterna e materna su Lump von Hagenstolz. Diversi cuccioli di queste accoppiate furono venduti all’estero e se ne persero le tracce, diversi non furono valorizzati, comunque andiamo a ricordare alcuni soggetti di punta, di queste importanti cucciolate, fra i quali menzionerei il maschio nero nato nel 1962 SCH.I. Kandy von Furstenfeld, ceduto al sig. Leo Schellmann titolare dell’Allevamento v. Frankenland..

Della cucciolata con la M sono noti, il maschio marrone nato ne 1963 INT.CH.BDSg.SchH III Mecki von Furstenfeld, il maschio nero INT.CH. Miko von Furstenfeld e la femmina nera INT.CH.BDSgn.SchH III Mascha von Furstenfeld ceduta al sig.
Hans Wiblishauser, titolare dell’Allevamento v. Bavaria, e attuale Presidente della Dobermann Verein, e dell’IDC.
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IL’ultima di queste cucciolate, fu quella della lettera V del 1966, da ritenersi per quanto mi riguarda,
certamente la più importante, e al di là della femmina nera BDSgn.SchH I Vijlia von Furstenfeld, e del maschio DV.CH. di
lavoro, SchH III Verry von Furstenfeld, che geneticamente però non lasciarono tracce rilevanti nella razza, il mio “importante” era riferito al maschio nero SchH III Korung Vello von Furstenfeld, ceduto al sig Ottmar Vogel, titolare dell’Allevamento v Wilden Markgraf, e responsabile per l’addestramento per quasi dieci anni della Dobermann Verein.

Vello rappresenterà secondo il mio punto di vista, il vero tramite del dobermann “moderno” con la sua riproduzione
attraverso molti accoppiamenti, alcuni dei quali fatti in stretta consanguinetà dal sig. Palmer, sui quali concordo con il sig.
Vogel….quando afferma che questo tipo di selezione esasperato della razza… essere stata
la causa che ha portato poi negl’anni che seguirono, la linea di sangue v Furstenfeld ad approdare ad una sorta di deriva genetica, soprattutto per quel che riguarda l’attitudine di quei cani, anche se forse…in contraddittorio… proprio da questo tipo di accoppiamento, è nato un po’ la mitologia del “Tipo Furstenfeld”, ancorato a marcate caratteristiche morfologiche, come …l’espressione della testa con occhi scurissimi, focature … irripetibili, con incollature difficilmente riscontrabili a tutt’oggi, aspetti che determinarono anche la diversa interpretazione della razza far Wilking e Palmer, e non solo….volendo far riferimento anche ad alcuni allevatori che impostarono geneticamente poi negl’anni a venire, proprio sulle scelte di questi due allevatori, il loro indirizzo allevatoriale.
Comunque storicamente parlando, fu proprio da un accoppiamento fatto nel 1968 dal sig. Wilking , riferendomi a quello di Vello v Furstenfeld x Kira v. Romberg (Bingo v. Dornberg x Ilka v. Romberg), che si concretizzerà la più importante linea genetica che condizzionerà quest’ultimo trentennio della razza Dobermann, riferendomi al maschio nero INT.CH. Bryan von Forell e al maschio marrone INT.CH.BDSg.DVSg. Bonni von Forell, soggetti che vedremo, analizzando i pedegree dei più importanti Dobermann contemporanei, determineranno davvero l’evoluzione della razza.

Bryan v. Forell

Vorrei fermarmi qui a proposito di Vello von Furstenfeld, per andare sempre in quel periodo, a vedere e capire la concettualità , con la quale il sig. Wilking, nel suo Allevamento, traversando una media consanguinetà su Alex v. Kleinwaldheim, riuscì a produrre dei soggetti, che di fatto sarebbero andati a determinare poi il futuro della razza. E’ nel 1964 che il sig. Wilking, accoppierà la femmina nera, Iris v. Forell, femmina impostata geneticamente anch’essa su Alex v. Kleinwaldheim con il maschio nero nato nel 1958 BDSg.SchH I Falko von Hagenstolz ( Lump v Hagenstolz x Kitty v Hagenstolz) da questo accoppiamento nascerà il
maschio nero INT.CH.SchH II Odin von Forell, soggetto dotato di un ottimo tronco e buona ossatura, pregi che possiamo definire come “tipici” del FORELL, e che si consolideranno nel tempo.

Fu nel 1968, che anche il sig. WILKING, concretizzerà questo lavoro in media consanguinetà, accoppiando Odin von Forell con la femmina marrone BDSgn. Cita Germania (Casar v. Weideneck x Reni Germania), accoppiamento
che produrrà il maschio nero in INT.CH.BDSg.DVSg. Chico von Forell,soggetto del quale il sig. Vogel affermava aver avuto i pregi del tronco del padre, con forte ossatura, ed essere stato sotto il profilo attitudinale, avendolo provato personalmente in addestramento, soggetto nella media, sufficientemente saldo di nervi.

Odin v. Forell

Chico v. Forell
Io penso concludendo, che rispettivamente, Vello von Furstenfeld (1966) e Chico von Forell (1968), rappresentino il vero risultato finale del lavoro allevatoriale di questi due allevatori, che osservato sotto un profilo di….compensazione genetica….determineranno una sorta di ….giusto compromesso genetico della razza Dobermann.

10.01.2010 – CACIB Hoogstraten – BELGIUM
judge: Dirk SPRUIT
results & photos by: Nadija Timmermans-Kadenko
BLACK MALES
Junior class:
Exc.1, Best Junior – ISAAK Delle Due Donne (Genius v.d. Donauhoeve – Dina v.d. Donauhoeve)
Intermediate class:
Exc.1, CAC, CACIB, BOB – HAYCO van’t Genebos (Grant di Villa Conte – Eres van’t Genebos)
Champion class:
Exc.1 – Russkaja Mechta ELBIN EGOR (Smart Wood Hills Elisir – Russkaja Mechta Boginia Binja)

BROWN MALES
Working class:
Exc.1, res.CAC, res.CACIB – Pride of Russia KASPIJ (Fedor del Nasi – Euro Dinamika iz Zoosfery)
BLACK FEMALES
Puppy class:
Vp.1, Best Puppy – IANTY van’t Duinezicht (Latino Lorenco v. Cobra – Dantelady van’t Duinezicht)
Youth class:
Vg.1 – HERACLEA du Bois de Lindthout (Eddy du Bois de Lindthout – Allen du Bois de Lindthout)
Intermediate class:
Exc.1, res.CAC, res.CACIB – GINI van’t Duinezicht (F’Hiram-Abif Royal Bell – Dantelady van’t Duinezicht)
Open class:
Exc.1, CAC, CACIB – Ramonburg’s HIRANYA (Victor Vito del Rio Bianco – Ramonburg’s Carrera)